one thing carine doesn't do -- and she is a good role model for the femmey-transgressive vibe MN seems to be emitting -- is foufy hair. i won't say she does't get it done -- you can't get that haute stringy look without a lot of Product -- but her hair is very negligee. and nor does carine do lipstick. the only over the top thing she does is the bondage shoes, which are strangely age appropriate, sort of dommey femme, and which i recommended, above, for MN with her armani muscle shirts. i think MN should look carefully at roitfeld, who always looks ready for work and play, a mastery vibe which old babes must work or else people will be treating them like idiots, firing them, ignoring them when they speak, and helping them across the street.

yeah, old babes is a really interesting topic.