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purejuice ([personal profile] purejuice) wrote2009-12-13 09:11 am
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Old Babes

Is that a leather top you’re wearing in this photograph?
Yes. I wore it when I went to speak at the first meeting of our University of Chicago lesbian and gay alumni association, and I thought it was so sweet for them to invite somebody who wasn’t gay to be their keynote speaker. But I wore this outfit, and they said, “We want to thank you for wearing leather.”


-- Martha Nussbaum, who goes on to scrupulize about marrying again or eating in restaurants when others cannot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/magazine/13FOB-Q4-t.html


I know that people I worship around here worship Martha but I think the booties in this pic, or maybe its the ninja jacket, not to mention that it is leather, or maybe the sum of the parts, is too much.

I can't gank the pic as is the usual practice of the fashion police. I have accused Martha of dressing like a transsexual, not that there's anything wrong with that, but there is something both cluelessly butch and over-fastidious in the way the goddess dresses. Is she channeling Judith Butler or cruising her? One could begin with the too-tan decolletee and the ca. 1988 anchorbitch necklace, going for the Andree Putman PIB look. I think Putman pulls it off. I think. Jury still out on Putman, though Putman definitely has the Old Babe hair problem licked. I think there is a not so very fine line, of which Nussbaum and Putman may be beyond the pale, between Old Babe and what we call in Spanish, a vieja verde. Which is nasty, and the antidote for which is watching the shipboard scene -- the midget doppelganger with the makeup -- in Death in Venice annually. Compare and contrast with the Italian Old Babes of a previous post. Or the adorable Princess Lilian.


Andree Putman


What I'm saying is Martha is not following the Old Babe accessories rule. If you wear the red lipstick, you have to eliminate almost everything else you're wearing, the ca. 1995 Vamp nail polish at the top of the list. If you wear the ninja leather jacket, you do not wear the red lipstick, the Happy Rockefeller Hair Done, the low cut wifebeater, the necklace, the mini skirt, the opaque black stockings and the booties.


Happy Rockefeller


If you wear the jacket, you wear it, I think, with pants. Actually, the mini is good. If you wear the booties, you wear them with pants and not that jacket. Oh Jeez, the wifebeater again. She's got a thing about her bicepses. As I do not. Please. Martha. Dude. Put your shirt on.


Nussbaum in what I have called her Jan Morris outfit, with the wifebeater, anchorbitch necklace, Happy Rockefeller hair and biceps, but without the ninja leather jacket she sports in today's NYT.


And I have to say, viewing the most recent Tina Turner concert, while she certainly is old and certainly is a babe, Tina, grrrl, it's time to pack it up when you can hardly walk across the stage and the backup dancers (BUDs) have to do the heavy lifting. Yikes. Love the Lurex pedal pushers tho. And I'm, uh, relieved you didn't wear the booty short version your BUDs rock. Oh jeezus. I'm not sure that's enough of a credential to award you Old Babe status. Like Putman, however, you do have what is possibly the very best Old Babe hair.

[identity profile] filmstills.livejournal.com 2009-12-14 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
i usually avoid nit-picky fashion commentary, but i'll roll with ya here because i think this topic is fascinating...even if the outfit were on a Young Babe, it's un peu too much. to my eye (which is a very fashion-inundated eye, i grant you) she's working that Paris Vogue thing that's fashionable right now -- whether that's her intention or not, that's what it's invoking right now. the hosiery and the bootie are not working together with everything else. i think you're right, the jacket is distinctive enough without everything else distracting from it. the boots are just wrong, wrong, wrong.

it's an outfit that is similar to something Carine Roitfeld might do, but Carine would never do the necklace, hosiery and shoe. it's worth looking at the fact that Carine Roitfeld and Martha Nussbaum are not that far apart in age (they're certainly within a generation of one another) and both are hot stuff in their own particular way. but this type of outfit (i.e., slightly dom-y) would feel at home on Carine but just a tiny bit uneasy on Martha, and it's fascinating to surmise upon the discrepancy.

[identity profile] purejuice.livejournal.com 2009-12-14 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
one thing carine doesn't do -- and she is a good role model for the femmey-transgressive vibe MN seems to be emitting -- is foufy hair. i won't say she does't get it done -- you can't get that haute stringy look without a lot of Product -- but her hair is very negligee. and nor does carine do lipstick. the only over the top thing she does is the bondage shoes, which are strangely age appropriate, sort of dommey femme, and which i recommended, above, for MN with her armani muscle shirts. i think MN should look carefully at roitfeld, who always looks ready for work and play, a mastery vibe which old babes must work or else people will be treating them like idiots, firing them, ignoring them when they speak, and helping them across the street.

yeah, old babes is a really interesting topic.

[identity profile] purejuice.livejournal.com 2009-12-14 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
http://media.photobucket.com/image/carine%20roitfeld/chicwit/CarineRoitfeld.jpg

this is hott. i'm not sure MN has the length of leg required but it is the perfect vibe for her. you're so right.
Edited 2009-12-14 15:17 (UTC)