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purejuice ([personal profile] purejuice) wrote2010-03-28 10:04 am

The Tea Partiers Are Anti-Reaganists

Why are the Democratic party and MoveOn not all over this? How stupid are they? Shouldn't they be at Tea Party rallies, speaking, leafletting, rushing the people -- mostly laid-off boomers, apparently, who are losing their houses and their jobs, without any real chance ever of working again? These are the ice floe candidates. If you've ever been to a Medicaid old folks home, or stood behind an old person in the grocery store buying a can of cat food, a can opener, an onion and a fork, you will comprehend their fear. They are rightfully distressed.

[Jeff McQueen, 50, laid-off auto parts salesman] blames the government for his unemployment. “Government is absolutely responsible, not because of what they did recently with the car companies, but what they’ve done since the 1980s,” he said. “The government has allowed free trade and never set up any rules.”

He and others do not see any contradictions in their arguments for smaller government even as they argue that it should do more to prevent job loss or cuts to Medicare. After a year of angry debate, emotion outweighs fact.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html?scp=1&sq=jeff%20mcqueen&st=cse

It's always driven me crazy that the poor people should have been swept away by the anti-health care bill arguments which are, bottom line, the tool of the man. I think also there's a significant degree of racism operating here as a black president seems to be machinating these changes. The nigs have raised our taxes, as one of my former neighbors put it before leaving D.C. for more salubrious venues (in his case, I think it was North Carolina).

This piece in the NYT suggests, quite rightly, that the Tea Partiers are not the monolithic flash mob whiteys the Gotcha freaks in the blogosphere would have you believe. They are a flash mob, they are white, but their politics are by no means a foregone conclusion. The Dems are wasting a huge opportunrity by not proselytizing at these gatherings. There should be truth squads, caseworkers from the Dems' offices offering assistance with the mortgages, etc..

God, they're stupid. I can't get over it.

[identity profile] purejuice.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
indeed, the suicidal squabbling among my colleagues about the politically correct procedures to keep bullies off girls and women already in big trouble -- that is to say the strategy bullshit among the prochoice people -- was the most loathsome part of the experience. the pro-life people understood strategy far better and always thoughtfully said thank you to me, and i to them, after a respectful dialogue. often it was me, saying very gently, you can represent your views better elsewhere. here, it looks to me like you're intimidating and harassing women and girls, which no person of good conscience would wish to do. i know you are a person of good conscience etc ect.
i think there's a lot of class war arrogance in the demonization of the tea baggers, and that is yet another suicidal liberal attitude.
Edited 2010-03-29 03:25 (UTC)

[identity profile] fengi.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
"i think there's a lot of class war arrogance in the demonization of the tea baggers" Spare me the bogus meme liberals are all wealthy elites and bigots and theocrats are authentic salt of the earth. The teabaggers include a lot of clearly comfortable people and there are a lot of poor lefties. The minorities calling out teabagger bigotry - are they all uppper class?

I again question this idea people didn't try to engage the teabaggers with civility when Obama and every person who held a town hall meeting did until the made such things impossible by escalating their behavior. At some point you must acknowldege the screamers have an unshakable agenda an protect yourself.

Recognize those pro-lifers were polite out of self-preservation, as they were more at risk of being arrested if they weren't. If they really were such people of good conscience, there would be no need for clinic defense. It's easier to harass people with a facade of civility.

[identity profile] purejuice.livejournal.com 2010-03-29 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
there was no facade of civility, trust me. it resulted only from my efforts to look them in the eye. you should try it.