i've never seen it. yipes. i do think what i call "laddish humor" in a comment below is a persuasive value in hollywood -- it is what keeps bruckheimer in his millions and is apparently due to the love of young men abroad for this kind of humor. foreign rights are making bruckheimer's billions and i suspect the ethos has trickled down to so-called reality TV. i don't think of this as real, but rather as a gatekeeper's market value. the jiggle on kim's ass is real.