Cinnabun, Yo Daddy Is a Dog

[purejuice]

I'm way more scandalized that Cinnabun's gone missing again, according to TMZ, or by Jon Benet's three-year-old Suri Cruise's gold highheels, earrings, and lipstick than I am by grown men who call themselves Jesse James or Tiger cheating on their trophy wives. It's sort of democratizing to think that Tiger is a skank ho like all the rest of us. But three-year-olds? Nunh unh.


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/photos/its-good-to-be-suri-2010222

I am kind of mortified by the story on couples fighting on Facebook, given the intimate details I've posted here. Sliced and rigidly diced, to be sure, and only about my enemies. Uh, and, er, my late mother.

Comments

[anaisdjuna.livejournal.com]

Yuck! She's even got the LA prostitute bag to match!

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

rilly???!!! the sunset strip chix are sporting these?

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

You lose your dog once, WHY THE F would you not then make sure they are on a leash/microchipped/in a fenced yard/etc.?

Is it wrong that I want celebrities to truly exist in a different world, in the way that 1940s movie stars tried to do? I don't want to see a startlet in Juicy sweatpants jogging up the Hills; I want them to never be seen in public without a dress and gloves. Tiger Woods was gross partly because with infinite money and fame, he was getting it on not with models, celebs, socialites or artists, but trashy cocktail waitresses and a FL diner waitress in a parking lot.

Well, I'm sure the Scientology will help fix whatever mess her parents make of her... Um...

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i'm totally with you on the gloves, and have often wondered why somebody like clooney (or t. woods or prince charles), who literally could Own the best woman on the planet, consort with cocktail waitresses. to put it nicely.

of someone whose future was to contain a burning at the stake, umberto eco wrote that they were Burnt Flesh. hmmmm.

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

I guess it's disturbing for me because it ties into the whole schmucky thing hetero dudes tend to do: when given a choice at club/party/life they will walk past the woman who is smart/interesting/accomplished and fawn over whoever is heavily made-up and showing their boobs. These guys, who could conceivably have anyone, prove the point by going for the same.

Although if the rumors are true, Jesse James wins the schmuck prize by going fro the woman WITH A TATTOO ON HER FOREHEAD.

[villagecharm.livejournal.com]

Jesse James used to be Danzig's security guard. I think poor judgment was probably one of the job requirements.

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

Danzig should have kept him on...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfD7agP1yxw

rant du jour

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i don't think the moes can be let off the hook. they are at least as schmucky, if not more so, than the hets, because of the self-righteousness of being a twinkhound as an inalienable civil right.
i lived in chickenhawk central (dupont circle) for nearly 10 years and noticed, among my very wide gay acquaintanceship, such things as an attractive gay man of 50 who can and will do only redheads under 25. other incredibly unattractive older gay men pretend to be tweekers so they can attend meth head anonymous meetings where all the desperate 20 year olds are -- a kind of chickenhawking that can be fatal to young addicts. others puff cigarettes as their guts spill over their belts and discuss "My Type" -- invariably young and utterly impoverished black, or Asian, or other kinds of hairless and clueless adolescent immigrants -- for sex with impunity. again, as a civil right. this is one story of sexual slavery the rich white gay establishment will never cop to. the one hint of it is larry kramer's statement in the NYT years ago that ACT UP was all about the twinks.
one such gay person drove his BMW down the alley where a friend of mine was walking the dog and rolled down his window, electronically, and hissed at her Get out of here, fat bitch. This is not your neighborhood.
any other human being who so fetishized, objectified and exploited others so rigidly, in a political or business setting, would be being brought to trial for crimes against humanity. the caligulan old gay farts (over 35s! it's a jungle out there!) i've seen who have given up all pretense of human composure and relationships with non-redheaded humanity are merciless and shameless. one man i know in his 70s, who told me he was dying of AIDS, used to stagger down 17th street shirtless, leaning on his cane, nipple rings sagging horrifically, sweating like a pig and lookin' for love. another sketched in elvis sideburns and hair with brown shoe polish. sex as a right, sex with impunity, is a soul-murdering enterprise. it's fun to be cute, but when it goes away (as it does early for gays) there is a long life -- oh, say 60 years or so -- left in which validation and well-being through sex can be achieved only by serious impairment of judgment (if they're not tweeking at age 70, they start) and the resulting impoverishment of all the other kinds of love, of which the universe is full. to specify the package that it comes in is a crime against humanity and god, whatever you call it.
that's all. sorry.

Re: rant du jour

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

Exhibit A: the last years of Allen Ginsberg's life

Re: rant du jour

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

oh yes. there's a thing called metaphysical guilt (primo levi named it) in which we all feel bad when required to witness other people behaving badly.

[minniethemoocha.livejournal.com]

The good looking famous guys who buy streetwalkers are easy to understand. They want to have someone disposable who won't follow them home.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

isn't that what the cocktail waitresses and porn "stars" are?

[betnoir.livejournal.com]

I'd care less if James and Woods were not trying to be both Good Family Men and playahs at the same time.

See, this is where I give street cred to George Clooney. The man is upfront about being a playah. Has no interest in being a Good Family Man.

At least that sorta honesty is...refreshing.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

no. it isn't. it's depressing, see above, cause clooney could have the best woman in the world. not the stuff he goes for. it's icky, is what it is.

[betnoir.livejournal.com]

Hrrmmm..I thought he was with some model.

Of the Fashion variety, as opposed to the Fetish variety.

I'd not heard he was stooping to hookers and waitresses.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Maybe he is leaving the Best Women In The World for people who want to settle down.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Well... that would only apply to the Best Women In The World Who Want To Settle Down. Which leaves the rest of The Best Women In The World still available.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Name me some, who do not want to settle down. What are we talking about here?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Honestly I'm not wimping out when I say I wouldn't presume to point fingers. I was just thinking that there are two levels of generalizations about women in this discussion that make me somewhat uncomfortable. The first is PJ's, which seems to be that in a venn diagram, the circle representing The Best Women In The World and that representing cocktail waitresses have zero overlap. The second was the apparent assumption that (also in a venn diagram) the Best Women In The World circle entirely overlaps with the Women Who Want To Settle Down circle.

I disagree with both assumptions.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Concur on the positing and your assessment of the first Venn diagram, which is why I pushed -- except I pushed the wrong person. :)

As for the second, I think our culture, and especially celebrity culture, pretty much dictates that one of the things that makes you the Best Woman is wanting to Settle Down -- and that from a male POV inside that set of judgments, that also makes you less Hot.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Oh man - if we're talking about male perspective (white guys? straight guys? celebrity guys? rich guys? only those who fall within each of those circles?) within celebrity culture, I'm way out of my depth, because that universe creates people like whatsername Reality TV star who is now 95% plastic.

I (mostly) meant in real life. :) I can't help thinking at least some of those people are also real human beings.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

okay, i'll accept the cocktail waitress critique to a degree. and agree that the best woman in the world could be a cocktail waitress, though i doubt it very seriously. what i'm wondering is why men of that stature (and it's not stature in my universe, btw) must date women who have neither the same good looks, money, power, cultural capital and connections that they do. why pick poor and obscure lovers so completely out of their own realm? when you could pick, let's just say, the most beautiful woman in the world with the best body? just to use a criterion that is reasonable when speaking of these guys?

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

no, cocktail waitress is shorthand for the blue collar service workers these guys pick. why?

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

What about Leo DiCaprio?

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i think his choices are appropriate -- both gisele and bar have their own money and are the best women in the world according to appropriate criteria. they're stars in their own world if not leo's, so there's some parity there. they can leave leo and maintain parity of class without being beholden to him.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

On the one hand: given the disproportionate access men have to money and power, I think it's at least shortsighted to think that a poor and obscure female lover wouldn't be (on levels other than money and power) completely within the realm of one of these dudes.

On the other hand: if these guys have all the power and money in the world and it's no problem to get the most beautiful woman in the world, perhaps some of them think it's more interesting to get Somebody Regular.

On the other hand: maybe they're total assholes who want to be with someone they can easily manipulate.

On the other hand: maybe the most beautiful woman in the world with the best body is really fucking boring or bad in bed

On the other hand: I guess my broad point is, I think "within one's realm" is a very complicated idea that does not preclude a rich man being genuinely happy with a cocktail waitress, because the terms "rich man," "genuinely happy" and "cocktail waitress" all contain entire universes of possibility.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i hear you on the regular person thing. why do all these "regular" people come in servant or slut or semi skeezy show business form? how about a nice real estate agent or a GAP salesgirl or a forklift operator?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

I can't help thinking that more often than not the skeeviness-level of the so-called regular people probably matches very closely the skeeviness-level of their powerful lovers. Only the regular people don't have staff to keep their skeeviness further off the radar.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i hasten to add i have been a blue collar service worker during which time i learned that the best tips came not from my peers, the rich ass college boys, but from my peers, the night shift blue collar workers at the ithaca gun factory.
my problem is not with the class of the women but with why these guys consistently chose powerless women?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

If you've been a blue collar service worker, then I can't believe you haven't met women within that sphere that would be completely irresistible to powerful men - weak women and strong ones (who would be attractive, obviously, for different reasons).

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

of course. and not a single one of them was a starfucker. had any of these guys put the make on them, they'd have said, you're out of your league, little man.

[gwenzilla.livejournal.com]

i hate to say it, but if my daughter had had access to those clothes when she was in preschool, she probably would have worn them. even the heels. but mainly the OMG BLINDING MISMATCHING STYLES/COLORS/WHATHAVEYOU. i don't understand why this poor girl has access to those shoes though.

[minniethemoocha.livejournal.com]

The silent resentment of a woman who knows she has been bought.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

when i was a little older (say four; at three i was still tomboyishly exploring the world) i lusted for shoes like that, in my own size, with a lust that has really never been equalled since.
but it was clear to me they weren't little girl shoes, or even little boy shoes (which is kind of what i really wore), and while you wanted to be pretty you wanted very much also to be modest. i have explicit memories of being insulted by attention when not dressed modestly enough to suit my taste as a two year old.
the sexualized toddler thing bothers me.

Why yes, PureJuice, it CAN get worse...

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/19/jesse-james-sandra-bullock-michelle-mcgee-nazi-swastika-mistress-photos/

Re: Why yes, PureJuice, it CAN get worse...

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

hmmm. i was just thinking about how the gay privilege of fetishization is the same place certain forms of ....genocide come from.
people do play with the nazi thing -- fascinating fascism is susan sontag's take on it.

Re: Why yes, PureJuice, it CAN get worse...

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/33dTexts/SontagFascinFascism75.htm

Sadomasochism has always been the furthest reach of the sexual experience: when sex becomes most purely sexual, that is, severed from personhood, from relationships, from love. It should not be surprising that it has become attached to Nazi symbolism in recent years. Never before was the relation of masters and slaves so consciously aestheticized. Sade had to make up his theater of punishment and delight from scratch, improvising the decor and costumes and blasphemous rites. Now there is a master scenario available to everyone. The color is black, the material is leather, the seduction is beauty, the justification is honesty, the aim is ecstasy, the fantasy is death.

masters and slaves. that's what pisses me off about this whole thing. i don't believe you should be able to enact slavery in public.