Cinnabun, Yo Daddy Is a Dog

[purejuice]

I'm way more scandalized that Cinnabun's gone missing again, according to TMZ, or by Jon Benet's three-year-old Suri Cruise's gold highheels, earrings, and lipstick than I am by grown men who call themselves Jesse James or Tiger cheating on their trophy wives. It's sort of democratizing to think that Tiger is a skank ho like all the rest of us. But three-year-olds? Nunh unh.


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/photos/its-good-to-be-suri-2010222

I am kind of mortified by the story on couples fighting on Facebook, given the intimate details I've posted here. Sliced and rigidly diced, to be sure, and only about my enemies. Uh, and, er, my late mother.

Comments

[betnoir.livejournal.com]

I'd care less if James and Woods were not trying to be both Good Family Men and playahs at the same time.

See, this is where I give street cred to George Clooney. The man is upfront about being a playah. Has no interest in being a Good Family Man.

At least that sorta honesty is...refreshing.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

no. it isn't. it's depressing, see above, cause clooney could have the best woman in the world. not the stuff he goes for. it's icky, is what it is.

[betnoir.livejournal.com]

Hrrmmm..I thought he was with some model.

Of the Fashion variety, as opposed to the Fetish variety.

I'd not heard he was stooping to hookers and waitresses.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Maybe he is leaving the Best Women In The World for people who want to settle down.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Well... that would only apply to the Best Women In The World Who Want To Settle Down. Which leaves the rest of The Best Women In The World still available.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Name me some, who do not want to settle down. What are we talking about here?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Honestly I'm not wimping out when I say I wouldn't presume to point fingers. I was just thinking that there are two levels of generalizations about women in this discussion that make me somewhat uncomfortable. The first is PJ's, which seems to be that in a venn diagram, the circle representing The Best Women In The World and that representing cocktail waitresses have zero overlap. The second was the apparent assumption that (also in a venn diagram) the Best Women In The World circle entirely overlaps with the Women Who Want To Settle Down circle.

I disagree with both assumptions.

[fj.livejournal.com]

Concur on the positing and your assessment of the first Venn diagram, which is why I pushed -- except I pushed the wrong person. :)

As for the second, I think our culture, and especially celebrity culture, pretty much dictates that one of the things that makes you the Best Woman is wanting to Settle Down -- and that from a male POV inside that set of judgments, that also makes you less Hot.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

Oh man - if we're talking about male perspective (white guys? straight guys? celebrity guys? rich guys? only those who fall within each of those circles?) within celebrity culture, I'm way out of my depth, because that universe creates people like whatsername Reality TV star who is now 95% plastic.

I (mostly) meant in real life. :) I can't help thinking at least some of those people are also real human beings.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

okay, i'll accept the cocktail waitress critique to a degree. and agree that the best woman in the world could be a cocktail waitress, though i doubt it very seriously. what i'm wondering is why men of that stature (and it's not stature in my universe, btw) must date women who have neither the same good looks, money, power, cultural capital and connections that they do. why pick poor and obscure lovers so completely out of their own realm? when you could pick, let's just say, the most beautiful woman in the world with the best body? just to use a criterion that is reasonable when speaking of these guys?

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

no, cocktail waitress is shorthand for the blue collar service workers these guys pick. why?

[the-sikh-geek.livejournal.com]

What about Leo DiCaprio?

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i think his choices are appropriate -- both gisele and bar have their own money and are the best women in the world according to appropriate criteria. they're stars in their own world if not leo's, so there's some parity there. they can leave leo and maintain parity of class without being beholden to him.

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

On the one hand: given the disproportionate access men have to money and power, I think it's at least shortsighted to think that a poor and obscure female lover wouldn't be (on levels other than money and power) completely within the realm of one of these dudes.

On the other hand: if these guys have all the power and money in the world and it's no problem to get the most beautiful woman in the world, perhaps some of them think it's more interesting to get Somebody Regular.

On the other hand: maybe they're total assholes who want to be with someone they can easily manipulate.

On the other hand: maybe the most beautiful woman in the world with the best body is really fucking boring or bad in bed

On the other hand: I guess my broad point is, I think "within one's realm" is a very complicated idea that does not preclude a rich man being genuinely happy with a cocktail waitress, because the terms "rich man," "genuinely happy" and "cocktail waitress" all contain entire universes of possibility.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i hear you on the regular person thing. why do all these "regular" people come in servant or slut or semi skeezy show business form? how about a nice real estate agent or a GAP salesgirl or a forklift operator?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

I can't help thinking that more often than not the skeeviness-level of the so-called regular people probably matches very closely the skeeviness-level of their powerful lovers. Only the regular people don't have staff to keep their skeeviness further off the radar.

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

i hasten to add i have been a blue collar service worker during which time i learned that the best tips came not from my peers, the rich ass college boys, but from my peers, the night shift blue collar workers at the ithaca gun factory.
my problem is not with the class of the women but with why these guys consistently chose powerless women?

[oneroom.livejournal.com]

If you've been a blue collar service worker, then I can't believe you haven't met women within that sphere that would be completely irresistible to powerful men - weak women and strong ones (who would be attractive, obviously, for different reasons).

[purejuice.livejournal.com]

of course. and not a single one of them was a starfucker. had any of these guys put the make on them, they'd have said, you're out of your league, little man.